with regards to the last point: cannot confirm that - because it might not be that obvious even the amount of times I get added to random as-sets and having to complain to them to *NEVER GET EVEN AN RESPONSE BACK* is annoying as hell. [pcdog@lappeenranta ~]$ whois as-ubnix-members|grep 41666 members: AS41666 [pcdog@lappeenranta ~]$ I am not peering there, they are not replying. they added me on 5th of january. this is why my stance is that as-sets are inherently broken. also thanks/credits to Benjojo for making a tool that shows me this a lot easier/alerting me ;) Silvan Von: "Nick Hilliard (INEX)" <nick@inex.ie> An: "Brandon Zhi" <Brandon@huize.asia> CC: Manrs-community@elists.manrs.org Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. Januar 2023 23:31:20 Betreff: Re: [manrs-community] What are the dangers of next-hop hijacking? Brandon Zhi wrote on 08/01/2023 08:56: <shortened> again, you get to play this trick once. When you're found out, your transit connection will be terminated. Nick -- Manrs-community mailing list Manrs-community@elists.manrs.org https://elists.manrs.org/mailman/listinfo/manrs-community