MANRS Community Charter Update - Call for Comments and Review
Dear community members, The MANRS Steering Committee is happy to announce that a Proposal has been submitted within the MANRS Development Process (MDP) and is now open for comments. This Call for Comments will last for four (4) weeks, ending on July 1, 2025. * Proposal Name: MANRS Community Charter * Specification Type: Normative * Proposal Type: Update Summary: This is a proposal for the updates to the MANRS Community Charter. You can find the full proposal here: https://manrs.org/proposals/21811/ including a link (“view documents”) on the lower left. This link leads to a which contains two versions of the revised charter, which are identical as far as the content is concerned: 1. Proposed Changes (annotated) – contains a clean version of the proposal with the changes annotated in the comments 2. Proposed Changes (tracked changes) – contains a “red-line” version with all changes tracked Please provide your comments and feedback on the proposal via the MANRS community mailing list (manrs-community@elists.manrs.org<mailto:manrs-community@elists.manrs.org>) through July 1, 2025. Note that for this proposal the Steering Committee decided not to form a Working Group. That is why we announce the Proposal and the Call for Comments in a single email. For more context, please read the recent blog post at https://manrs.org/2025/05/future-of-manrs/ for a fuller explanation. Regards, Tony Tauber MANRS Steering Committee Chair
Greetings I think the changes represent a logical and positive step as the program matures. One question I have is. For the 2 SC members that are appointed, it isn't clear to me that they are (or are not) subject to the same limits as elected members. Would the appointments be for 3 years? Staggered? Limited to a maximum number of (consecutive) appointments? Sec 3.3 indicates that _elected_ members are subject to such terms, implying that appointed members are not. Maybe that's enough, or maybe an explicit explanation would make it clearer. Minor editorial note. The first, annotated version, has two section 3s. This might be due formatting to show the changes, but something I noticed. Thanks On 6/3/2025 12:23 PM, Tauber, Tony via Manrs-community wrote:
Dear community members,
The MANRS Steering Committee is happy to announce that a Proposal has been submitted within the MANRS Development Process (MDP) and is now open for comments.
This Call for Comments will last for four (4) weeks, ending on July 1, 2025.
* Proposal Name: MANRS Community Charter * Specification Type: Normative * Proposal Type: Update
Summary: This is a proposal for the updates to the MANRS Community Charter. You can find the full proposal here: https://manrs.org/proposals/21811/ including a link (“view documents”) on the lower left.
This link leads to a which contains two versions of the revised charter, which are identical as far as the content is concerned:
1. Proposed Changes (annotated) – contains a clean version of the proposal with the changes annotated in the comments 2. Proposed Changes (tracked changes) – contains a “red-line” version with all changes tracked
Please provide your comments and feedback on the proposal via the MANRS community mailing list (manrs-community@elists.manrs.org<mailto:manrs-community@elists.manrs.org>) through July 1, 2025.
Note that for this proposal the Steering Committee decided not to form a Working Group. That is why we announce the Proposal and the Call for Comments in a single email.
For more context, please read the recent blog post at https://manrs.org/2025/05/future-of-manrs/ for a fuller explanation.
Regards,
Tony Tauber MANRS Steering Committee Chair
Hi Andrew, On 04/06/2025 14:25, Andrew Gallo via Manrs-community wrote:
Greetings
I think the changes represent a logical and positive step as the program matures.
One question I have is. For the 2 SC members that are appointed, it isn't clear to me that they are (or are not) subject to the same limits as elected members. Would the appointments be for 3 years? Staggered? Limited to a maximum number of (consecutive) appointments? Article 3.2 states:
"[...]The founding organization (the Internet Society) may appoint one member, at its discretion, annually." Which was supposed to convey that every year they have to appoint someone, which may be just a re-confirmation. So basically, the term is one year, although it may be the same person forever.
Sec 3.3 indicates that _elected_ members are subject to such terms, implying that appointed members are not. Maybe that's enough, or maybe an explicit explanation would make it clearer.
Indeed, the terms specified in article 3.3 only apply to elected members, hopefully that reinforces the point in 3.2 above. But please let me know if you think that we should make this more explicit. E.g. by adding that these conditions do not apply to appointed members?
Minor editorial note. The first, annotated version, has two section 3s. This might be due formatting to show the changes, but something I noticed.
Thank you for catching this. We'll fix it. Thank you for your input! Regards, Andrei
Thanks
On 6/3/2025 12:23 PM, Tauber, Tony via Manrs-community wrote:
Dear community members,
The MANRS Steering Committee is happy to announce that a Proposal has been submitted within the MANRS Development Process (MDP) and is now open for comments.
This Call for Comments will last for four (4) weeks, ending on July 1, 2025.
* Proposal Name: MANRS Community Charter * Specification Type: Normative * Proposal Type: Update
Summary: This is a proposal for the updates to the MANRS Community Charter. You can find the full proposal here: https://manrs.org/proposals/21811/ including a link (“view documents”) on the lower left.
This link leads to a which contains two versions of the revised charter, which are identical as far as the content is concerned:
1. Proposed Changes (annotated) – contains a clean version of the proposal with the changes annotated in the comments 2. Proposed Changes (tracked changes) – contains a “red-line” version with all changes tracked
Please provide your comments and feedback on the proposal via the MANRS community mailing list (manrs-community@elists.manrs.org<mailto:manrs-community@elists.manrs.org>) through July 1, 2025.
Note that for this proposal the Steering Committee decided not to form a Working Group. That is why we announce the Proposal and the Call for Comments in a single email.
For more context, please read the recent blog post at https://manrs.org/2025/05/future-of-manrs/ for a fuller explanation.
Regards,
Tony Tauber MANRS Steering Committee Chair
On 6/30/2025 4:26 AM, Andrei Robachevsky wrote:
Hi Andrew,
On 04/06/2025 14:25, Andrew Gallo via Manrs-community wrote:
Greetings
I think the changes represent a logical and positive step as the program matures.
One question I have is. For the 2 SC members that are appointed, it isn't clear to me that they are (or are not) subject to the same limits as elected members. Would the appointments be for 3 years? Staggered? Limited to a maximum number of (consecutive) appointments? Article 3.2 states:
"[...]The founding organization (the Internet Society) may appoint one member, at its discretion, annually."
Which was supposed to convey that every year they have to appoint someone, which may be just a re-confirmation. So basically, the term is one year, although it may be the same person forever.
Thank you, Andrei. Somehow I missed that. I think that answers my question
Dear community members, The community call for comments that lasted from June 3 till July 1 2025, is now closed. There were several comments on the manrs-community mailing list that raised important questions. Thank you for your attention and consideration. The Steering Committee have asked the Secretariat to address the issues raised and to present an updated draft proposal. After reviewing the draft, we will open a MANRS Last Call on July 9 2025 for MANRS participants to approve the revised Charter. Regards, Nick Hilliard MANRS Steering Committee Vice Chair Tauber, Tony via Manrs-community wrote on 03/06/2025 17:23:
Dear community members,
The MANRS Steering Committee is happy to announce that a Proposal has been submitted
within the MANRS Development Process (MDP) and is now open for comments.
This Call for Comments will last for four (4) weeks, ending on July 1, 2025.
* *Proposal Name: *MANRS Community Charter * *Specification Type: *Normative * *Proposal Type: *Update
**
*Summary:*
This is a proposal for the updates to the MANRS Community Charter.
You can find the full proposal here: https://manrs.org/proposals/21811/ including a link (“view documents”) on the lower left.
This link leads to a which contains two versions of the revised charter, which are identical as far as the content is concerned:
1. Proposed Changes (annotated) – contains a clean version of the proposal with the changes annotated in the comments 2. Proposed Changes (tracked changes) – contains a “red-line” version with all changes tracked
Please provide your comments and feedback on the proposal via the MANRS community mailing list
(manrs-community@elists.manrs.org <mailto:manrs-community@elists.manrs.org>) through July 1, 2025.
Note that for this proposal the Steering Committee decided not to form a Working Group.
That is why we announce the Proposal and the Call for Comments in a single email.
For more context, please read the recent blog post at https://manrs.org/2025/05/future-of-manrs/ for a fuller explanation.
Regards,
Tony Tauber
MANRS Steering Committee Chair
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Nick Hilliard (INEX) -
Tauber, Tony